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Protected Conversations

Protected Conversations

January 23, 2018 by Astons Solicitors

In Basra v BJSS Ltd the EAT held that, if the date of termination is in dispute, a tribunal can hear evidence about ‘protected conversations’ in an unfair dismissal case.

Under section 111A Employment Rights Act 1996 any pre-termination discussions about settlement that take place between employer and employee before termination of employment are protected and cannot normally be used by either party in an unfair dismissal claim. The EAT ruled in this case that there was an exception as there was a dispute over the date of termination.

An email was written to the Respondent by the Claimant in response to a without prejudice offer letter that had been received. The email stated “today will be the last day at BJSS”. Following this the Claimant ceased coming to work and then brought a case for unfair dismissal. BJSS refuted this and claimed that the Claimant’s employment had ended by mutual agreement or that the email was a resignation. The Claimant denied any such resignation and claimed that he had been dismissed by BJSS. The tribunal excluded BJSS’ offer letter as it was protected under s11A and it held that the s111A protection could not be waived unlike the without prejudice rule.

The EAT stated that “where there is dispute as to whether or not the contract was terminated on a particular date, the tribunal would not be in a position to say what evidence should be excluded until that dispute is terminated”. Therefore, the true termination date needs to be determined before evidence can be excluded using the s111A protection.

Written by

Lorraine Emery
23rd January 2018

Filed Under: Employment Law Tagged With: Employment Law, Protected Conversations

Pre-Termination Negotiations: Implementation Date

July 10, 2013 by Astons Solicitors

It was announced this week that confidential pre-termination negotiations as contained in Section 14 of Vince’s Cables Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act 2013 will be implemented on the 29th July 2013. Follow the link to the commencement order. The new concept of “Confidential pre-termination negotiation” means that employers will now be able to have a “protected conversation” with an employee about terminating their employment under agreed terms within a “Settlement Agreement” (the new name for Compromise agreements as of 29th July) without a prior dispute being necessary.

Such conversations will be “protected conversations” and will not be able to be used by the employee in any potential tribunal proceedings. This is clearly a significant change from the previous rule of “without prejudice” which required a previous dispute to be apparent for the conversation to be protected. It is however worth noting that these new “protected conversations” will be limited to unfair dismissal claims. Automatic unfair and discrimination cases will not be covered under this sanction. A structured format will also need to be followed by the employer if they wish for their conversation to be “protected” and Acas have recently published their Code of Practice on Using Settlement Agreements to encompass the new legislation for pre-termination Negotiations. Should you require further information on the new legislation or if you intend to offer a Settlement Agreement to an employee in the future please do contact Astons for further legal advice and support.

Written Edward Aston
15th July 2013

Filed Under: Employment Law, Government Reforms, Information for Employers Tagged With: Employment Law, Employment Law Reforms, Government Reform, Protected Conversations, Settlement Agreements

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